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Ban Appeal
#1
Your OOC name (byond username): boyohboy

Your in-game name (Used most or at the time): Mark Reade

Your Discord username and #tag: MarkR#1706

Approximate Time of Ban (Give your best estimate. Used for investigation): 2-12-2020 around 6:00AM

Ban Reason/Message (Copy paste or screenshot of the ban screen with round ID, banning admin visible): See attachment

State your appeal (Please limit to 500 words or less):


 Rolled ling, picked loadout, went to target. RP'd my way into the room, asked to work with him. Used screech and proceeded to murder target. Target runs, situation get a little sloppy but I ultimately kill my target. Drag target into maint. AI and lone science lizard see. AI calls out ling in sci maint. People flocking to valid hunt the ling. Lone sci lizard saw me dragging corpse into maint. Instead of running and calling for help, science lizard opens the door and stands there a good 5 seconds while im mid succ, covered in blood, armblade out. 2 more people come, I get actually attacked. None of these people are security. All of them are valid hunters because they heard AI callout ling in science. 

Total of 4 people died. First my target. Then 3 people who ACTIVELY CHASED A CHANGLING INTO MAINTENANCE WITH AGGRESSIVE INTENTION instead of running to tell security. The literal definition of valid hunting (which in turn makes you valid especially chasing a ling). Again, none of these people were security, none of these people were simply "investigating", they literally came straight to me, opened the door, and were all within 1 tile of me.

Papaporo hears the screeches of the valid hunters that hunted a ling and got killed witnessing a succ, and proceeds to ban me for 3 days cause "you got notez" and "muh logs" but didn't actually watch the scene play out and didn't care that I cleaned up the sloppy kill and fixed the problem by cloning people who got caught hunting me.

I brought all the peoples I killed heads to cloning to be revived, minus my target obviously. The situation got messy but de-escalated very quickly after I was given time to clean up and not be bwoinked rule clippets. I was in the clear, had a new disguise, people were cloned, life goes on. Everything fixed it self. But Papaporo felt it was needed to slap a ban cause enough validhunters were screeching after getting killed.
#2
I was the A.I. during this round so I figured I'd weigh in on my side of the story on what I saw happen. I will say, as I am an A.I I can't see combat logs, or anything like that, and some portion of what happened was obscured by maint, but I did see the initial part of it.

Round start, I join a little late, Security asks me to check on the hurt Geneticist on suit sensors, so I go looking for him. I notice a ton of blood in front of the maint door so I open it, and peer inside to see two dead bodies and you standing over em. Being on Asimov, I obviously begin to screech, as only an Asimov can do. I saw several members of science rush over, and stand at the doorway and peer inside, but I didn't witness any actual attacking take place. None that I could see had any weapons, though, and as far as I could tell no actual 'fighting' too place, because I didn't see any swinging. Briefly after, the doors closed and I lost sight of everything. Later, HoS managed to show up along with my borg, and we found 4-6 corpses? I can't remember the exact number, but all of them beheaded. You mentioned bringing the heads to cloning but as far as I know, none of them got cloned-which, coulda been a low pop medical thing, but still, I don't think it got done. You did go back and disposed of the bodies (all of them that I saw) by dragging them off somewhere, though. I also watched the attempt at pod person be destroyed, but I did not see which one was in the pod so it is possible that was the target you wanted to stay dead, not sure.

I'm not really taking sides, I just wanted to post what me as the AI saw over all so maybe it helps.
#3
isnt this just a regular ling shift though?
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#4
thats a really big signature
#5
(02-13-2020, 01:06 AM)boyohboy Wrote: thats a really big signature
Hmm people seem to like to validhunt. It seems like if you are valid hunting and loose time to suck it up buttercup.
#6
(02-13-2020, 04:01 AM)Sardonus15 Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 01:06 AM)boyohboy Wrote: thats a really big signature
Hmm people seem to like to validhunt. It seems like if you are valid hunting and loose time to suck it up buttercup.

reeeee him mean to me ban he ahelp him grif
#7
This appeal will now be handled by myself.
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#8
Code:
[2020-02-12 10:16:39.421] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has temp shocked for 30 seconds [Law Office] (Locker Room (121, 150, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:00.494] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked [chair] with the arm blade (Genetics Lab (136, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:01.389] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 75)  (Genetics Lab (136, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:04.075] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 50)  (Genetics Lab (133, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:04.799] ATTACK: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) has shoved Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) with into the disposal unit (disposal bin) (NEWHP: 100)  (Genetics Lab (133, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:08.574] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked [�Research Division air scrubber #6] with the arm blade (Research Division (129, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:10.938] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 25)  (Research Division (128, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:13.492] ATTACK: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) has shoved Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) (NEWHP: 100)  (Research Division (124, 99, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:15.965] ATTACK: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) has shoved Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) (NEWHP: 100)  (Research Division (121, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:19.779] ATTACK: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) has shoved Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) (NEWHP: 100)  (Research Division (121, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:23.223] ATTACK: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) has shoved Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) (NEWHP: 100)  (Research Division (117, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:23.994] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked [firelock] with the arm blade (Research Division (117, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:25.896] ATTACK: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) has shoved Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) (NEWHP: 100)  (Research Division (118, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:26.258] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has flashed(AOE) Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with the flash (NEWHP: 25)  (Research Division (117, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:26.983] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has flashed(targeted) Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with the flash (NEWHP: 25)  (Research Division (117, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:27.957] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 6.3)  (Research Division (117, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:28.693] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Research Division (117, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:29.548] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has starts slicing the throat of Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Research Division (117, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:31.026] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) passive grab (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Research Division (117, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:33.093] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Research Division (118, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:45.050] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) neck grab (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:46.152] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) neck grab (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:47.252] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) passive grab (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:48.996] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:50.170] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) passive grab (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:52.918] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown the high-capacity power cell (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:54.617] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -37.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:55.468] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -62.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:56.338] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -87.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:57.246] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:02.085] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown Rodger Buzzard's head (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:03.992] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown Rodger Buzzard's head (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:05.987] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown the emergency firesuit (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:08.444] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) passive grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:16.375] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has flashed(targeted) Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with the flash (NEWHP: 100)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:18.520] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 75)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:19.375] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 50)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:20.212] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 25)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:20.930] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has flashed(targeted) Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with the flash (NEWHP: 25)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:21.755] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 0)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:22.642] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -25)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:23.554] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Indrae/(Vince Hennt) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -50)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:24.471] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Vince Hennt) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -125.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:29.901] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown Vince Hennt's head (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:31.587] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown Vince Hennt's head (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:37.283] ATTACK: Noktof/(Noktof Azen) has attacked Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) with wrench (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 95)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:39.075] ATTACK: Noktof/(Noktof Azen) has attacked Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) with wrench (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 90)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:40.004] ATTACK: Noktof/(Noktof Azen) has attacked Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) with wrench (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 85)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 102, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:40.212] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has flashed(targeted) Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with the flash (NEWHP: 100)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:41.018] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 81.3)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:42.039] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 58.8)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:42.872] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 36.3)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:43.731] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 17.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:44.453] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:45.355] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -27.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:46.229] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has flashed(targeted) Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with the flash (NEWHP: -27.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:47.174] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -50)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:48.089] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -72.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:48.988] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Noktof/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -98.2)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:59.374] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has flashed(targeted) Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) with the flash (NEWHP: 100)  (Research and Development (111, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:00.513] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 81.3)  (Research and Development (111, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:01.089] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) passive grab (NEWHP: 81.3)  (Research and Development (111, 101, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:02.132] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 56.3)  (Research and Development (112, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:03.063] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 31.3)  (Research and Development (115, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:03.898] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 6.3)  (Research and Development (116, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:04.532] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -18.7)  (Research Division (118, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:05.398] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Research Division (122, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:11.011] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Noktof Azen) passive grab (NEWHP: -100)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:19.318] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown Xaq-Tahm's head (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:20.937] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown Xaq-Tahm's head (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:26.008] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Noktof Azen) passive grab (NEWHP: -100)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:28.395] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -122.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (125, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:29.255] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -145)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (125, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:30.366] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -170)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (125, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:31.217] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -190)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (125, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:32.066] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attacked *no key*/(Noktof Azen) with arm blade (INTENT: GRAB) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (125, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:42.502] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown Noktof Azen's head (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (125, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:12.674] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Noktof Azen) passive grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:13.782] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Noktof Azen) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:15.906] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Noktof Azen) neck grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:19.593] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown the cowboy boots (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:20.799] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown the wrench (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:23.658] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Noktof Azen) neck grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:24.682] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Noktof Azen) neck grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:25.723] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Noktof Azen) neck grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:26.610] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Noktof Azen) neck grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:27.789] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Noktof Azen) kill grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:28.850] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Noktof Azen) kill grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:29.905] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Noktof Azen) kill grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:30.761] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has strangled *no key*/(Noktof Azen) kill grab (NEWHP: -240)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:20.813] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) passive grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:21.818] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:22.896] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:23.973] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:25.041] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:25.874] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:27.203] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:28.316] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:29.356] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:30.177] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has strangled *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:30.475] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Noktof Azen) passive grab (NEWHP: -72.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:31.582] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) passive grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:32.655] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Noktof Azen) passive grab (NEWHP: -72.5)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:34.210] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) passive grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:22:58.902] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has thrown the emergency toolbox (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:01.281] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:02.349] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:03.381] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:04.507] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:05.309] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) neck grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:06.054] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:07.129] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:08.174] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:23:09.009] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has strangled *no key*/(Xaq-Tahm) kill grab (NEWHP: -93.7)  (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (122, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:29:38.713] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) passive grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Research Division (128, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:29:39.598] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Research Division (128, 103, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:33.971] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) passive grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:35.026] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:36.077] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) neck grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:37.167] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) neck grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:38.266] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to neck grab *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) neck grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:39.045] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has grabbed *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) neck grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:39.345] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) kill grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:40.437] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) kill grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:41.560] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has attempted to strangle *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) kill grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:30:42.295] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has strangled *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) kill grab (NEWHP: -162.5)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:31:51.421] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade) has stripped Rodger Buzzard's ID Card (Geneticist) off *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) (NEWHP: -20)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 78, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:32:08.726] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard) has stripped the geneticist labcoat off *no key*/(Rodger Buzzard) (NEWHP: -20)  (Aft Maintenance (90, 79, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:32:11.556] ATTACK: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard) has thrown the labcoat (Aft Maintenance (90, 78, 2))

Relevant attack logs.

According to these you killed your target and were then chased into maint, when fighting ensued with non targets. According to antag rule 1.1 this is perfectly acceptable. (See the bolded section below)

1.1. Do not needlessly kill those you do not need to outside of your objectives and greeting message simply because you can. Things like covering up evidence, dealing with security (as it is always a threat to you), ‘Good Samaritans’ on your tail, and removing a witness are always acceptable examples. If you can justify said action, it is probably acceptable.

You also admitted your antag status when questioned regarding it, and clearly the crew was onto you here:

Code:
[2020-02-12 10:18:47.253] SAY: Foxhole34/(Foxhole) "ai Rodger Buzzard (Geneticist) is in the red check it out" (Brig Control (107, 163, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:47.638] SAY: Sugma/(Alger Fryer) "yellow" (Medbay Treatment Center (86, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:49.117] SAY: *no key*/(Hijikata) "There's always a catch, and I'm the best there is." (Holding Facility (104, 53, 1))
[2020-02-12 10:18:50.344] SAY: Joel the lost one/(Flip Hastings) "like, 20% of the bounties value" (Cargo Office (79, 142, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:51.107] SAY: *no key*/(mouse) "Squeak?" FORCED by poly (Port Quarter Maintenance (59, 94, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:53.669] SAY: GavinTheShagmeister/(Kraxter Kleid) "hey warden, hows it hanging" (Arrival Shuttle (44, 139, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:54.939] SAY: Memed Hams/(Clint Yeasthood) "douglas what are you?" (Xenobiology Lab (131, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:18:57.704] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) "MARK READE LING" (Research and Development (113, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:01.186] SAY: Foxhole34/(Foxhole) "to the left" (Brig Control (107, 163, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:02.059] SAY: SprklTwnkl/(Doofy Douglas) "The lone miner." (Mining Station EVA (64, 39, 5))
[2020-02-12 10:19:03.273] SAY: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) "you have so much to live for" (Medbay Central (102, 110, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:05.423] SAY: Prince Roy Mist III/(Norman Dawes) "Location?" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 115, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:05.504] SAY: Memed Hams/(Clint Yeasthood) "bruh" (Xenobiology Lab (130, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:07.197] SAY: *no key*/(mouse) "Squeak?" FORCED by poly (Fore Maintenance (132, 172, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:09.201] SAY: *no key*/(mouse) "SQUEAK!" FORCED by poly (Fore Maintenance (132, 172, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:09.207] SAY: *no key*/(Renault) "Awoo" FORCED by poly (Captain's Quarters (119, 129, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:09.796] SAY: Icedeclair/(Chloe Tide) "Geneticist is already dying" (Medbay Treatment Center (84, 106, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:14.512] SAY: Lukuz13/(O.M.E.G.A) "They are not on suit sensors" (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:14.573] SAY: Memed Hams/(Clint Yeasthood) "I'll make you a god this time" (Xenobiology Lab (130, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:17.350] SAY: Zack24/(Wall Spinner) "empty!!" (Medbay Central (100, 111, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:18.496] SAY: Lukuz13/(O.M.E.G.A) "But I will look for them" (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:20.236] SAY: Memed Hams/(Clint Yeasthood) "you'll be the bane of all megafauna" (Xenobiology Lab (130, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:21.777] SAY: SprklTwnkl/(Doofy Douglas) "Whats the point of four scientists and no miners, you know?" (Mining Station Starboard Wing (61, 31, 5))
[2020-02-12 10:19:22.203] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) "location unknown" (Research and Development (113, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:25.223] SAY: *no key*/(Poly) "Security to bar, the chaplain is tossing shit again" FORCED by poly (Chief Engineer's Office (152, 146, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:28.474] SAY: Foxhole34/(Foxhole) "he couldnt have gotten far" (Brig Control (107, 163, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:28.851] SAY: Memed Hams/(Clint Yeasthood) "Fair" (Xenobiology Lab (130, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:29.219] SAY: *no key*/(mouse) "SQUEAK!" FORCED by poly (Port Quarter Maintenance (77, 107, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:29.231] SAY: *no key*/(Inspector Johnson) "What kind of medbay is this? Everyone's dropping like flies." (Courtroom (114, 149, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:30.962] SAY: SprklTwnkl/(Doofy Douglas) "I'm not touching megafauna as the only miner." (Mining Station Starboard Wing (61, 31, 5))
[2020-02-12 10:19:31.346] SAY: Prince Roy Mist III/(Norman Dawes) "I'm gonna patrol maints after getting solars set up" (Aft Primary Hallway (108, 108, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:31.370] SAY: Joel the lost one/(Flip Hastings) "Hi everyone, upon completion of a bounty, I, the QM, will be granting you 20% of a bounties' value as a reward and a permit to buy things from cargo" (Cargo Office (79, 142, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:34.851] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) "killed someone right infront of me" (Research and Development (113, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:38.851] SAY: Memed Hams/(Clint Yeasthood) "I mean later in the round" (Xenobiology Lab (130, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:44.178] SAY: LeserZ/(Default Cyborg-876) "hey" (Central Primary Hallway (96, 115, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:45.624] SAY: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) (DEAD) "oof" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:49.674] SAY: Memed Hams/(Clint Yeasthood) "I'll give you fuck shit up magic" (Xenobiology Lab (130, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:51.172] SAY: LeserZ/(Default Cyborg-876) "give me your hat" (Central Primary Hallway (89, 117, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:19:55.526] SAY: Joel the lost one/(Flip Hastings) "complete bounties and get money to buy a shotgun and kill those pesky lings!" (Cargo Office (79, 142, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:01.232] SAY: *no key*/(cow) "moo" FORCED by poly (Holding Facility (104, 71, 1))
[2020-02-12 10:20:04.475] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) "bruh" (Research Division (117, 100, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:14.244] SAY: Prince Roy Mist III/(Norman Dawes) "Kinda scummy, QM" (Space (100, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:14.589] SAY: Indrae/(Vince Hennt) (DEAD) "Wew" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:16.821] SAY: Prince Roy Mist III/(Norman Dawes) "But okay" (Space (97, 64, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:18.222] SAY: Lukuz13/(O.M.E.G.A) "Chad Warden, the bartender broke into botany" (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:19.505] SAY: GavinTheShagmeister/(Kraxter Kleid) "becuase its just you and me and there are confirmed lings, we shouldnt let eachother out of eachothers sight" (Brig (115, 167, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:21.533] SAY: *no key*/(Poly) "You see how it has three different things?" FORCED by poly (Chief Engineer's Office (152, 146, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:23.355] SAY: Indrae/(Vince Hennt) (DEAD) "That was a fast quad kill" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:26.388] SAY: Noktof/(Noktof Azen) (DEAD) "aight entirety of R&D slaughtered good start" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:27.559] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) (DEAD) "yeah" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (125, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:34.638] SAY: Joel the lost one/(Flip Hastings) "I mean, if I don't do this no one ever completes bounties" (Cargo Bay (74, 156, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:38.330] SAY: Lukuz13/(O.M.E.G.A) (binary) "Oh, hello Borg" (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:41.226] SAY: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) (DEAD) "I shouldn't have let him in my lab" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:41.545] SAY: *no key*/(Renault) "Ack-Ack-Ack-Ackawoooo" FORCED by poly (Captain's Quarters (120, 129, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:43.556] SAY: *no key*/(Inspector Johnson) "Hey, Chad Warden! Hold on, I'm coming." (Primary Tool Storage (86, 148, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:44.907] SAY: Prince Roy Mist III/(Norman Dawes) "Fair enough" (Port Quarter Solar Array (49, 84, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:45.549] SAY: *no key*/(Poly) "Detective" FORCED by poly (Chief Engineer's Office (152, 143, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:46.678] SAY: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) (DEAD) "he said he wanted to help :(" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:49.890] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) (DEAD) "yeah" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (135, 108, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:50.068] SAY: Mr.Dbaggy/(Stack Overflow) (binary) "Hello" (Arrival Shuttle (42, 139, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:51.527] SAY: Joel the lost one/(Flip Hastings) "maybe, if you all were less greedy, I wouldn't be doing this" (Cargo Bay (74, 156, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:52.393] SAY: Indrae/(Vince Hennt) (DEAD) "And no one suspects the blood in R&D" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:20:58.022] SAY: Foxhole34/(Foxhole) "well go arrest him" (Brig (106, 168, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:02.214] SAY: Noktof/(Noktof Azen) (DEAD) "so that's where the murderbone ling meme comes from" (Starboard Quarter Maintenance (137, 78, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:02.296] SAY: Prince Roy Mist III/(Norman Dawes) "I never ask for anything from cargo" (Space (42, 86, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:04.860] SAY: Foxhole34/(Foxhole) "ll set him to arrest" (Brig (106, 168, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:08.250] SAY: L4v4/(Ariel Odin) "you want to get augmented ?" (Robotics Lab (116, 85, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:08.739] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) (DEAD) "that's the kind of people you'll be dealing with in this game" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (138, 108, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:11.669] SAY: *no key*/(�emergency medibot) "I knew it, I should've been a plastic surgeon." (Emergency Shuttle (218, 87, 1))
[2020-02-12 10:21:13.731] SAY: Indrae/(Vince Hennt) (DEAD) "Five minutes into the round" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:14.734] SAY: Zoom526/(Rodger Buzzard) (DEAD) "to be fair, he was cornered" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124, 104, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:17.376] SAY: Icedeclair/(Chloe Tide) "Dont lose" (Medbay Central (100, 108, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:22.946] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) (DEAD) "yeah" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:25.172] SAY: Lukuz13/(O.M.E.G.A) "Alert" (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:25.690] SAY: Indrae/(Vince Hennt) (DEAD) "To be fair, where did the get the flash from?" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:28.768] SAY: Joel the lost one/(Flip Hastings) "because cargo wouldn't even give you anything, we have no money unless someone farms miasma as crazy" (Cargo Office (79, 142, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:31.947] SAY: Lukuz13/(O.M.E.G.A) "Mark is indeed a dangerous criminal" (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:33.740] SAY: Hollow_for_example/(Xaq-Tahm) (DEAD) "fuck if i know" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:36.176] SAY: Noktof/(Noktof Azen) (DEAD) "let's hope that botany will clone our corpses" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (123, 105, 2))
[2020-02-12 10:21:38.369] SAY: Lukuz13/(O.M.E.G.A) "They're in science maint covered in blood" (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))Th
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#9
This is the ticket for this incident:

Code:
[2020-02-12 10:22:36.003] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Mark Reade): mind explaining the 4 corpses in sci maint
[2020-02-12 10:22:55.054] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): they all spotted me, walked in on the murder, witness removal. two actually tried fighting
[2020-02-12 10:23:54.719] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Mark Reade): and you didnt think that killing 4 people and beheading for the sake of covering up your own failure in being a stealth antag would be excessive and murderboning?
[2020-02-12 10:25:59.129] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): If you saw how it played out, you'd know what was up. My target was round start a geneticist, couple screens away. I walked in and RPd to work with him. Attempted to murder. He ran and made it to the door. A lizard saw and called it on comms. AI saw. One by one they came exactly where I was covered in blood and succing. I was trying to lay low but they came out of the wood works like "good samaritans" and a couple actually tried fighting me actively
[2020-02-12 10:27:25.802] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Mark Reade): you know theres a grace period at roundstart where youre not allowed to immediately kill people right. its in the rules and its to make sure everyone can start the round safely. even as an antag you have to try and deescalate ESPECIALLY when killing non-targets
[2020-02-12 10:28:32.360] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): i totally did, I drug my target off into maintenance and beheaded them to prevent redtext if they got cloned.people just came validhunting and got dunked on. The grace period I didn't know about. I dont recall seeing that but ill reread the rules.
[2020-02-12 10:29:44.201] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Mark Reade): you didnt sting them with any toxins, the logs start with you hitting them with your armblade.
[2020-02-12 10:30:04.237] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): i didnt take toxins. I went for a clean kill
[2020-02-12 10:31:25.303] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:31:51.424] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:31:52.424] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:31:53.423] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Hi_Im_Chros to secret
[2020-02-12 10:31:57.095] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:32:01.324] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:32:04.479] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:32:07.578] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:32:10.975] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Sliggist to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:32:14.852] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has toggled Boyohboy's note made by Buzzardman2 to not secret
[2020-02-12 10:33:11.795] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): youve been warned for murderboning/powergaming in the past already, have you not learnt from your previous interactions with other admins
[2020-02-12 10:34:08.165] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): Dude look i didn't murderbone, they literally came to me with intent to fucking kill me, what am I supposed to do? let them? i wasn't actively hunting people. I killed my one target. Then people came valid hunting when it was called out
[2020-02-12 10:35:46.874] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): the part where you beheaded them is the problem. as a ling you can just run away and change identity, you dont need to go all out and kill any witnesses because people already knew
[2020-02-12 10:36:26.546] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): i can't change into the person they saw me kill. kinda redundant isnt that? thats just asking for security to come beat my shit in.
[2020-02-12 10:37:27.140] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): its called being a stealth antag. get a disguise first because if you just go all out armblade headchopping youre inviting people to hunt you
[2020-02-12 10:37:57.056] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): jesus christ im fixing it im bringing the heads to med bay to clone them. let it be known. if they come after me, its valid hunting and im killing again
[2020-02-12 10:40:58.685] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #1: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): we cool? i brought them to cloning, minus my target
[2020-02-12 10:41:15.576] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): again, the problem came from the initial killing spree.##escalation clause 1). Escalation resulting in murder is only acceptable within reason. If your life is in danger, you can always fight back lethally, or if conflict with the other player has lasted throughout the round with multiple fights. Theft, break-ins, demotions, destruction of property, getting pranked and other inconveniences are not reasons to murder another player or put them into a life or death situation. Ask what a rational person would do and act accordingly.##A changeling is not exactly threatened by 4 unarmed scientists who you couldve hidden from by simply getting a disguise, which is the entire point of lings.
[2020-02-12 10:44:11.657] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): I am an antag. I am valid when caught. They will always use lethal force. two of them tried killing me. I fought back when I was fucking hunted after AI called me out. If you want to deal with failure to MRP, then talk to the 4 people who came valid hunting when AI called out a dangerous ling. Why would you come actively hunting a fucking changling and you arent security? You see my problem here? I killed my first target no problem. Got spotted. No big deal, I dip off into maint with my target. BUT I WAS ACTIVELY VALID HUNTED BY THREE OTHER NERDS. Like come on my dude.
[2020-02-12 10:49:10.441] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): you were called out because you carelessly killed your target in the open at roundstart, of course people are going to be suspicious about it. this is about you having numerous warnings for murderboning already which you can check in your notes. just being an antag doesnt make you "valid" and again the whole point of a changeling is being a stealth antag, not someone who clobbers the heads off of anyone who might kill them even though lings are nearly invincible as is. there were a million ways you couldve de-escalated but from the stories ive got you didnt just go straight for murder, but took the effort to decapitate them all aswell, essentially attempting to remove them from the round.
[2020-02-12 10:51:18.884] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): i took all the heads back to cloning, and fully intended to later before you started bwoinking me. I just needed to clean up the mess and make shit normal again. Leaving them behind, any competant doctor could have reassembled them and skipped cloning and I'd have been outted. 4 people died. 1 was a target. 3 were brought to cloning and are now alive. The problem has resolved itself. I did the best I could with what I had to work with. Yes I got sloppy. I'm not solid snake, I am sorry. I fixed the error though.
[2020-02-12 10:54:30.388] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): 3). Over-escalation of fights is also unacceptable. Over-escalation is in short doing more damage to someone than is required to resolve an issue, or using violence instead of words to solve an issue. #Examples being: Killing someone during a dangerous fight when they could be placed into crit and healed or ignoring the opportunity to use non-lethal force when available. Delimbing someone for doing minimal damage to you. Breaking into a department and attacking someone when they try to remove you from the department, instead of asking for what is needed.
[2020-02-12 10:56:43.806] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): Bro what am I gonna say? "Uhhhh he tripped" while I'm literally mid succ and covered in blood with a headless corpse at my feet. Really my dude? Lets be realistic here. You and I both know what would have happened. I'd have got fucking gang rushed by like 5 valid hunters and died in maintenance while being shoved into a wall. AI would have gladly opened crematorium or gibber to them.
[2020-02-12 10:59:51.039] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): the first person who came after you in maint (because you loudly killed your target and left a very obvious trail and noise) you immediately flashed and killed aswell, i wouldnt call that someone validhunting you if they hadnt dont anything yet.
[2020-02-12 11:00:30.671] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): they were actively chasing a changling. my armblade was out. they didn't run to security or vacate the premises, they came looking. Thats valid hunting
[2020-02-12 11:01:26.493] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): thats called being a normal person and investigating very obvious suspicious things. the first person didnt even touch you before you killed him and the rest did barely anything aswell
[2020-02-12 11:02:08.690] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): If you see a changling. With an armblade. Covered in blood, dragging a corpse, and decide to follow it, you are valid hunting.
[2020-02-12 11:02:52.701] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): did they harm you? no, they were reporting a very obvious crime, dont shift blame on the people who tried to subdue/disarm you
[2020-02-12 11:03:37.981] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): reporting a crime is leaving and telling sec, not chasing the alien murder machine with a sword for an arm into the dark alley of maintenance.
[2020-02-12 11:05:45.879] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has created a temporary 3 days server ban for Boyohboy. Reason: Killed 4 people as a ling of whom only 1 was their target publically in science. claimed the people going after them were validhunting when they werent even armed and mostly trying to run away. Murderboning as a changeling at roundstart and decapitating an entire department is not ok, nor is endlessly lawyering about rules you clearly broke.
[2020-02-12 11:06:09.387] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has created a temporary 3 days role ban from 20 roles for Boyohboy. Roles: Abductor, Xenomorph, Blob, Blood Brother, Changeling, Cultist, Devil, Internal Affairs Agent, Malf AI, Monkey, Space Ninja, Operative, Syndicate Mutineer, Revolutionary, Revenant, Head Revolutionary, Syndicate, Traitor, Wizard, Hivemind Host Reason: Killed 4 people as a ling of whom only 1 was their target publically in science. claimed the people going after them were validhunting when they werent even armed and mostly trying to run away. Murderboning as a changeling at roundstart and decapitating an entire department is not ok, nor is endlessly lawyering about rules you clearly broke.
[2020-02-12 11:07:16.413] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has edited the IP, Duration of a ban for Boyohboy.
[2020-02-12 11:09:36.324] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has edited the IP, Reason of a ban for Boyohboy.
[2020-02-12 11:09:59.100] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has edited the IP, Reason of a ban for Boyohboy.
[2020-02-12 11:11:07.313] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has edited a note  for Boyohboy made by Papaporo Paprito from Banned from  Roles: Abductor, Xenomorph, Blob, Blood Brother, Changeling, Cultist, Devil, Internal Affairs Agent, Malf AI, Monkey, Space Ninja, Operative, Syndicate Mutineer, Revolutionary, Revenant, Head Revolutionary, Syndicate, Traitor, Wizard, Hivemind Host for 3 days - Killed 4 people as a ling of whom only 1 was their target publically in science. claimed the people going after them were validhunting when they werent even armed and mostly trying to run away. Murderboning as a changeling at roundstart and decapitating an entire department is not ok, nor is endlessly lawyering about rules you clearly broke. to Banned from  Roles: Abductor, Xenomorph, Blob, Blood Brother, Changeling, Cultist, Devil, Internal Affairs Agent, Malf AI, Monkey, Space Ninja, Operative, Syndicate Mutineer, Revolutionary, Revenant, Head Revolutionary, Syndicate, Traitor, Wizard...
[2020-02-12 11:11:15.987] ADMINPRIVATE: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito) has edited a note  for Boyohboy made by Papaporo Paprito from Banned from the server for 3 days - Killed 4 people as a ling of whom only 1 was their target publically in science. claimed the people going after them were validhunting when they werent even armed and mostly trying to run away. Murderboning as a changeling at roundstart and decapitating an entire department is not ok, nor is endlessly lawyering about rules you clearly broke. to Banned from the server for 3 days - Killed 4 people as a ling of whom only 1 was their target publically in science. claimed the people going after them were validhunting when they werent even armed and mostly trying to run away. Murderboning as a changeling at roundstart and decapitating an entire department is not ok, nor is endlessly lawyering about rules you clearly broke. You just got appealed on a previous ban and youre still going through a silicon ban, read the rules again...

To clarify on issues with this ticket...

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[2020-02-12 10:22:55.054] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): they all spotted me, walked in on the murder, witness removal. two actually tried fighting

This was fine.

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[2020-02-12 10:23:54.719] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Mark Reade): and you didnt think that killing 4 people and beheading for the sake of covering up your own failure in being a stealth antag would be excessive and murderboning?

Unacceptable to be said in a ticket.

On top of not being how things work, as stated in my previous post.

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[2020-02-12 10:27:25.802] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Mark Reade): you know theres a grace period at roundstart where youre not allowed to immediately kill people right. its in the rules and its to make sure everyone can start the round safely. even as an antag you have to try and deescalate ESPECIALLY when killing non-targets

This is not true, and no admin would have agreed with this if asked if this was the way to approach this ticket. This is made up policy, and doesn't reflect our actual policy.

The rule this most closely references is this:

1.2. Do not spawn camp or prevent others from entering the round safely.

The player clearly entered the round safely. This rule is for issues with people killing people on the arrival shuttle or bombing it, etc. It has no bearing with this ticket.

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[2020-02-12 10:29:44.201] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Mark Reade): you didnt sting them with any toxins, the logs start with you hitting them with your armblade.

And? Not something to be criticized. Extremely petty.

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[2020-02-12 10:28:32.360] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Mark Reade)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): i totally did, I drug my target off into maintenance and beheaded them to prevent redtext if they got cloned.people just came validhunting and got dunked on. The grace period I didn't know about. I dont recall seeing that but ill reread the rules.

Don't worry about this.

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[2020-02-12 10:33:11.795] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): youve been warned for murderboning/powergaming in the past already, have you not learnt from your previous interactions with other admins

This was not conducive to the tickets intentions and in no way helped it. Responses like these only incite needless conflict. Childish. 

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[2020-02-12 10:35:46.874] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): the part where you beheaded them is the problem. as a ling you can just run away and change identity, you dont need to go all out and kill any witnesses because people already knew

No.

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[2020-02-12 10:37:27.140] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): its called being a stealth antag. get a disguise first because if you just go all out armblade headchopping youre inviting people to hunt you

No.

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[2020-02-12 10:37:57.056] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): jesus christ im fixing it im bringing the heads to med bay to clone them. let it be known. if they come after me, its valid hunting and im killing again

You then attempted to make right on an issue that was not actually an issue, and your attempts and intentions were disgarded.

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[2020-02-12 10:41:15.576] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): again, the problem came from the initial killing spree.##escalation clause 1). Escalation resulting in murder is only acceptable within reason. If your life is in danger, you can always fight back lethally, or if conflict with the other player has lasted throughout the round with multiple fights. Theft, break-ins, demotions, destruction of property, getting pranked and other inconveniences are not reasons to murder another player or put them into a life or death situation. Ask what a rational person would do and act accordingly.##A changeling is not exactly threatened by 4 unarmed scientists who you couldve hidden from by simply getting a disguise, which is the entire point of lings.

Antags are separate from escalation clauses especially when in a public valid state and regarding their targets.

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[2020-02-12 10:44:11.657] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): I am an antag. I am valid when caught. They will always use lethal force. two of them tried killing me. I fought back when I was fucking hunted after AI called me out. If you want to deal with failure to MRP, then talk to the 4 people who came valid hunting when AI called out a dangerous ling. Why would you come actively hunting a fucking changling and you arent security? You see my problem here? I killed my first target no problem. Got spotted. No big deal, I dip off into maint with my target. BUT I WAS ACTIVELY VALID HUNTED BY THREE OTHER NERDS. Like come on my dude.

Entirely correct.

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[2020-02-12 10:49:10.441] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): you were called out because you carelessly killed your target in the open at roundstart, of course people are going to be suspicious about it. this is about you having numerous warnings for murderboning already which you can check in your notes. just being an antag doesnt make you "valid" and again the whole point of a changeling is being a stealth antag, not someone who clobbers the heads off of anyone who might kill them even though lings are nearly invincible as is. there were a million ways you couldve de-escalated but from the stories ive got you didnt just go straight for murder, but took the effort to decapitate them all aswell, essentially attempting to remove them from the round.

Defending yourself is not murderboning.

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[2020-02-12 10:51:18.884] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard)->Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito): i took all the heads back to cloning, and fully intended to later before you started bwoinking me. I just needed to clean up the mess and make shit normal again. Leaving them behind, any competant doctor could have reassembled them and skipped cloning and I'd have been outted. 4 people died. 1 was a target. 3 were brought to cloning and are now alive. The problem has resolved itself. I did the best I could with what I had to work with. Yes I got sloppy. I'm not solid snake, I am sorry. I fixed the error though.

You shouldn't have to defend yourself here, your justification for your actions was loud and clear, and this ticket and issue was grossly mishandled.

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[2020-02-12 10:54:30.388] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Papaporo Paprito/(Papaporo Paprito)->Boyohboy/(Rodger Buzzard): 3). Over-escalation of fights is also unacceptable. Over-escalation is in short doing more damage to someone than is required to resolve an issue, or using violence instead of words to solve an issue. #Examples being: Killing someone during a dangerous fight when they could be placed into crit and healed or ignoring the opportunity to use non-lethal force when available. Delimbing someone for doing minimal damage to you. Breaking into a department and attacking someone when they try to remove you from the department, instead of asking for what is needed.

Valid state as an antag that would have died. What, should you just be expected to lay down and die? Not a chance.

You were then consistently grilled for the rest of the ticket and then banned.

This never should have been a ban. Not only were the rules grossly misinterpreted and some made up on the spot, but the manner this ticket was handled was also incorrect.

Ticket handling and banning like this only burns bridges with players and forces them to leave the server.

Again, no rules were broken here.

You were chased into maint and attacked by the crew and announced as valid to the crew during this altercation. You defended yourself with your valid status.

This ban is being completely removed along with all noting about it, and the banning staff will be talked about regarding this case.

There is plenty wrong here, but you, were in the right.

Closed.
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