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Questionable Silicon PermaBan
#1
our OOC name (byond username): ikrarkjr

Your Discord username and #tag: ambrosia#0177

Approximate Time of Ban (Give your best estimate. Used for investigation): 10:17 PM western

Ban Reason/Message (Copy paste or screenshot of the ban screen with round ID, banning admin visible):
You have been banned by Patrick10ghost from the server.


Reason: \n\nAdmin PM to-Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): okay so here is now its going to work. You have paladin laws. You used illegal tech. You did not act with honor. You commited an evil act by killing two people. \n\n3 day ban. This is just stupid to self-emag which is self antagging. This is a heavy abuse of the cyborg role.\n\nSo I am giving a perm role ban from cyborg and AI.\n\nRound 2714


State your appeal (Please limit to 500 words.  We will not actually count the words unless your appeal is absurdly long):
Basically RnD unlocked illegal tech so I print out the illegal module (when installed just lets you use the EMAG module but has no other changes like an EMAG would) and says this is self antagging even though it just unlocks a module and does nothing else
he also says this breaks the law of acting with honor, which is definitely subjective
One person was trying to shove and cuff another guy, so i flashed him to which he started to attempt to kill me so i killed him
Another person was trying to weld people in crit into lockers, who were crit from fighting the blob right nearby

He says that this is apparently an evil act to kill them, even though i must protect the innocent and do not have zipties nor the time to handle them due to spending my time healing people and getting them cloned (between bwoink and ban was cloning people the entire time as well)

In addition, to my knowledge I have never abused silicon at all due to not playing them almost ever
That, combined with the fact that paladin is pretty subjective in the first place due to having to do with honor and right/wrong, makes this definitely a very questionable decision to even ban, let alone PERMANENTLY ban from silicon

upon closer inspection i am server banned for 7 days, despite him saying in the message 3
#2
Tongue 
lol get fucked Angel
#3
Alright, AI law is subjective to a point.
First I will handle "upon closer inspection i am server banned for 7 days, despite him saying in the message 3" I had settled with just 3 however after talking with other admins we increased it.

To handle why we increased it and why the ban was stuck to begin with.

let me list the watch lists you have.

"Banned from the server for 5 hours - RDM" 2019-04-11 17:24:47

"Murdergrudged his partner roboticist because they got him demoted and arrested. Claimed it was justified and was threatening to contact admins in IC, acting all-around childish" 2019-05-11 04:29:39

"Banned from Roles: Captain, Head of Personnel, Head of Security, Chief Engineer, Research Director, Chief Medical Officer for 3 days - Self antagged as captain.Feel free to appeal on discord." 2019-05-23 22:46:14

"Banned from the server for 1 day - Self antagged as captain.Feel free to appeal on discord." 2019-05-23 22:46:30

"Banned from Roles: Captain, Head of Personnel, Head of Security, Chief Engineer, Research Director, Chief Medical Officer, Cook, Abductor, Xenomorph, Blob, Blood Brother, Changeling, Cultist, Devil, Internal Affairs Agent, Malf AI, Monkey, Space Ninja, Operative, Syndicate Mutineer, Revolutionary, Revenant, Head Revolutionary, Servant of Ratvar, Syndicate, Traitor, Wizard for 1440 minutes - self antag" 2019-05-27 01:57:16

"Used advanced slime mutation smoke to convert himself into a slime, along with two other crew. Stated he thought it would turn him into a slimeperson." 2019-07-20 04:09:28

"Warned about self antagging and greytiding: injected afk chaplain with deafness, no reason other than bullying, consider not doing this next time" 2019-07-22 16:56:43

"disrespectful in admin PMs" 2019-07-23 20:00:12

"Vents to the admins about every transgression. Most likely deserved what happened to them." 2019-07-30 07:24:01

"Killed the AI for killing his xeno sent' spawn. Was borged, then lawless, proceeded to kill the AI." 2019-08-02 18:26:46

"Has been warned about playing vigilante and going on a murdering spree to stop shitcurity. Told to ahelp any infractions he thinks security is making. Instead of doing an antags job and taking out the sec-team himself. Bad greytiding." 2019-08-03 04:12:24

"Banned from Roles: AI, Cyborg, pAI permanently - Admin PM to-Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): okay so here is now its going to work. You have paladin laws. You used illegal tech. You did not act with honor. You commited an evil act by killing two people. 3 day ban. This is just stupid to self-emag which is self antagging. This is a heavy abuse of the cyborg role. So I am giving a perm role ban from cyborg and AI. Round 2714" 2019-08-07 01:14:38

"Self-antagging on several occasions. Gets real pissy" 2019-05-11 04:30:46

So to set the record. You have a long list of similar activity. I deiced not to perma-ban you from the server because I object to banning people permanently from the server.

To state why this is not a questionable decision to ban. Also with the history given of you abusing silicon roles why the perma ban was placed.

"1. Never willingly commit an evil act."
"2. Respect legitimate authority."
"3. Act with honor."
"4. Help those in need."
"5. Punish those who harm or threaten innocents."

Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) turned off the Genetics APC in Genetics Lab (This cuts off Clone pod)
GAME: Safety lock of Sergeant-at-Armsky was disabled by Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675)


ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573))->Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): Who Emagged you?

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675)->Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573)): me

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573))->Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): what?

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675)->Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573)): i made my own illegal tech module

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573))->Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): So you self antagged? (Emag allows you to access restricted and ONLY HARMFUL THINGS)

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675)->Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573)): Uhhh no?

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573))->Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): You just told me that you made and used an illegal mod to emag yourself.

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675)->Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573)): Yes and it doesnt change my laws

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573))->Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): You are murdering people during a Blob round!

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675)->Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573)): I killed 2 people one who was attacking guy and then me for trying to break it up and another podperson for trying to weld people into lockers during a blob round

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573))->Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675): okay so here is now its going to work. You have paladin laws. You used illegal tech. You did not act with honor. You commited an evil act by killing two people.
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- 3 day ban. This is just stupid to self-emag which is self antagging. This is a heavy abuse of the cyborg role.
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- So I am giving a perm role ban from cyborg and AI.

ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675)->Patrick10ghost/(blobbernaut (573)): i mean my laws were also supposed to be changed but the game bugged out lmao#literally try to change my laws right now with the console#2 different people who are competant players couldnt figure it out#im not unslaved but my laws arent the AI's either

[2019-08-07 04:48:25.163] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has flashed(AOE) Snowery/(Shoots-The-Humans) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Primary Tool Storage (74, 146, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:48:25.164] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has flashed(AOE) Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Primary Tool Storage (74, 146, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:48:25.164] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has flashed(AOE) Leviathan_Ez/(Jules Buster) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Primary Tool Storage (74, 146, 2))
Stopped them from fighting. No problem here.

Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) has attacked Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) with emergency disembarkation tool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 85) (Primary Tool Storage (74, 147, 2))
Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) has attacked Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) with emergency disembarkation tool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 70) (Primary Tool Storage (69, 145, 2))
Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) has attacked Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) with emergency disembarkation tool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 55) (Primary Tool Storage (69, 146, 2))
Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has flashed(targeted) Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))

[2019-08-07 04:48:40.621] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/heparin (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) (NEWHP: 100) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:48:40.621] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Heparin) (NEWHP: 100) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))

[2019-08-07 04:48:43.204] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/lexorin (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) (NEWHP: 99.2) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:48:43.204] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Lexorin) (NEWHP: 99.2) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))

[2019-08-07 04:48:45.016] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/lexorin (25u)) from the cyborg hypospray to Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) (NEWHP: 93.3) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:48:45.017] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Lexorin) (NEWHP: 93.3) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))

[2019-08-07 04:48:46.116] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has flashed(targeted) Fargothur911/(Kevin Robust) with the flash (NEWHP: 87.5) (Primary Tool Storage (68, 146, 2))

[2019-08-07 04:54:37.566] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has flashed(targeted) rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the flash (NEWHP: 97) (Starboard Primary Hallway (167, 128, 2))

[2019-08-07 04:54:41.564] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/acid/fluacid (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 98.5) (Starboard Primary Hallway (167, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:41.567] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Fluorosulfuric acid) (NEWHP: 86) (Starboard Primary Hallway (167, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:43.708] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/acid/fluacid (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 86) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:43.712] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Fluorosulfuric acid) (NEWHP: 73.5) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:44.757] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/acid/fluacid (25u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 73.3) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:44.760] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Fluorosulfuric acid) (NEWHP: 60.8) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:45.890] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/acid/fluacid (20u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 60.8) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:45.894] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Fluorosulfuric acid) (NEWHP: 48.3) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:48.286] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/lexorin (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 48.3) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:48.286] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Lexorin) (NEWHP: 48.3) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:49.404] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/lexorin (25u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 44) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:49.404] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Lexorin) (NEWHP: 44) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:52.905] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/cyanide (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 39.8) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:52.905] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Cyanide) (NEWHP: 39.8) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:54.220] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/cyanide (25u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 34.3) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:54.220] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Cyanide) (NEWHP: 34.3) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:57.085] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/heparin (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) (NEWHP: 28.8) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))
[2019-08-07 04:54:57.085] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected rennoc/(Rennoc Garner) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Heparin) (NEWHP: 28.8) (Starboard Primary Hallway (166, 128, 2))

I have no clue why you did this to him. I have nothing of him hitting you.

[2019-08-07 05:06:46.216] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has attacked *no key*/(Jamie Richards) with circular saw (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -65.9) (Fore Maintenance (132, 160, 2))
This a couple of times... Maybe trying to remove someone brain. IDK.


[2019-08-07 05:11:36.535] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has attacked CauliflowerBoaBuns[DC]/(Grendel Winton) with circular saw (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -413.2) (Medbay Central (153, 119, 2))

This a couple of times... Maybe trying to remove someone brain. IDK.

[2019-08-07 05:12:08.515] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/lexorin (30u)) from the cyborg hypospray to Bonk89/(Shlack Zerpt) (NEWHP: 77.4) (Medbay Central (154, 118, 2))
[2019-08-07 05:12:08.515] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected Bonk89/(Shlack Zerpt) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Lexorin) (NEWHP: 77.4) (Medbay Central (154, 118, 2))
[2019-08-07 05:12:09.743] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/lexorin (25u)) from the cyborg hypospray to Bonk89/(Shlack Zerpt) (NEWHP: 77.4) (Medbay Central (154, 118, 2))
[2019-08-07 05:12:09.743] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected Bonk89/(Shlack Zerpt) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Lexorin) (NEWHP: 77.4) (Medbay Central (154, 118, 2))
[2019-08-07 05:12:11.474] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/lexorin (25u)) from the cyborg hypospray to Bonk89/(Shlack Zerpt) (NEWHP: 72.4) (Medbay Central (154, 118, 2))
[2019-08-07 05:12:11.475] ATTACK: Ikrarkjr/(Medical Cyborg-675) has injected Bonk89/(Shlack Zerpt) with the cyborg hypospray (CHEMICALS: Lexorin) (NEWHP: 72.4) (Medbay Central (154, 118, 2))

Again lexoring someone.

Then you got banned.

So you harmed 3 people in total with two more being possible.

That in my eyes is acting with evil intent. You had non aggressive means of dealing with them but you made the choice of having the Antag card used on you. Then made the choice to use deadly force. I don't understand you could not see that as acting without honor. Using something labeled illegal tech. Harming crew members even if they are harming you. You had the ability for non violence.

"1. Never willingly commit an evil act." Murdered 3 and maybe 2 more
"2. Respect legitimate authority." I would say you probably did.
"3. Act with honor." Nope
"4. Help those in need." Yes and No
"5. Punish those who harm or threaten innocents." Punish is not murder the fuck out of.
#4
Literally every ban was fully appealed
Also that first ban was when i literally just started playing

To explain what happened
1. Set the robot to arrest anybody because it was in brokeninto sec armory, sec was deserted, wanted to not have people steal
2. well you can clearly see him hitting me there?
3. this guy was naked just welding crit people into lockers who dragged themselves away from the blob, he never hit me
4. yes there wasnt time to do surgery when the blob is killing everyone and i was trying to get everyone husked cloned as fast as possible
5. you 100% cut out the part for the last dude of him hitting me, without a doubt

For my laws:
"1. Never willingly commit an evil act." Murder in self defense isn't an evil act, I could not detain them either which I would've
"2. Respect legitimate authority." Yes
"3. Act with honor." 100% subjective, except if the person lies and deceives, which i didnt
"4. Help those in need." Yes I did, people who attack others are definitely not in need
"5. Punish those who harm or threaten innocents." How would I punish them while protecting innocents when sec is deserted due to blob, im pretty sure depressurized, and im a mediborg who cant ziptie? Legit

I have LITERALLY no idea how i couldve stopped them other than putting them into crit when my flash burns out in like 5 uses, i have no zipties, and sec is literally gone
Permaban for that dude? They are attacking me/fucking with others when theres a fucking blob killing everyone and im trying to go around and clone people/save them
I saved and cloned far more people than i killed, 100% certainty, at least doubly

Also "you have a history with abusing silicon roles"
No, I dont
"Killed the AI for killing his xeno sent' spawn. Was borged, then lawless, proceeded to kill the AI." 2019-08-02 18:26:46
This note is literally a shit half hearted note of an admin who didnt even listen
The story for this, is I had a chaos magicarp I was using to transform me into different things
The AI for some stupid reason told the borgs to kill the carp while it was transforming me
That meant that I was left on being stuck as a borg, AND was currently dead (from bolt of death since it is random)
So due to the AI being a dumbass and getting me stuck as a borg forever (there is no brain in your mmi as magic turned borg) I went and killed it
What did that admin do? Bwoinked me with "Yo" then immediately gibbed me before I could reply
Absolute joke of a note

Also I forgot to mention
So because it's labelled "illegal" it's not acting with honor to use it?
Since when do borgs follow space law? Because to my knowledge some of the types of borg even state when you become them that you IGNORE space law, instead following your own laws
So why, as a borg, should I care about space law?
It sounds like you're thinking it as a human, if a was a person with a law of "Act with honor"
Robots do not think the same as humans

So looking at all of the notes, literally none of them except the 1 single note in which I was magically a borg with no laws and killed the AI in revenge (which I did mostly because one of the few times I played borg I was told by an admin in ahelp that silicon lives don't matter nearly as much as humans)
So I really wasn't a borg, because I was just shifting between things that exist in the game, and had no laws at all

And you think that one time, where i had no laws, warrants a permaban for not understanding paladin lawset, and therefore self antagging as you say

That's not questionable?
Really?

"So to set the record. You have a long list of similar activity. I deiced not to perma-ban you from the server because I object to banning people permanently from the server. "

I've literally never been punished (without it being fully revoked) and you think another admin would perma-ban me for this?
Really
#5
Bumping
#6
2 days to get a reply, now 3 days without a second one
Nice forum
#7
So I am not going to argue a subjective law set. I gave you what I viewed as the outlook on that law set.

If the guy was weld locking people you should have A helped about it rather then breaking the server rules to do something about it.

https://fulpstation.com/showthread.php?tid=342

7: Admins are the boss, so listen to them. If an admin tells you that you shouldn’t be doing something, you shouldn’t be doing it. All cases are subject to admin discretion. If an admin contacts you, you are expected to respond as soon as possible. If you cannot be reached in a reasonable amount of time, you may be booted from the game. When an admin makes a decision concerning a dispute, do not continuously dispute it with them this can lead to a warning. Please try to be polite and respectful when speaking with an admin. If you think an admin is not extending the same courtesy to you, you may ask for another admin to take your case, and are encouraged to make an administrator complaint in the Discord. Ignoring admin PMs, lying, insulting admins or other players, or showing a general bad attitude may and will be counted against you and could lead to a ban.

1.1: Playing as the A.I. or a Cyborg is considered Medium Roleplay, as you’ll have specific rules governing your behavior that MUST be followed. If any of your laws dictate that you are valuable to the station, you MUST resist any attempt by another player to convert you to an antagonist (emag, etc.). Being human and mind controlled by another player (as a Bloodsucker vassal, for example) similarly obligates you to obey the rules given to you as though they were laws. Blatantly breaking these laws will lead to a job ban, or full ban if blatantly disregarded. [edited by Swain]™️

I feel as tho you had blatant disregard for the laws and only thing of them is ways they allow you to murder when you see fit.

I will uphold my ban however if you seek to have another admin weigh in please do so.
#8
Ill handle the subjective part then,  the ban is warranted as for one if you've ever been a paladin you would come to the logical conclusion that being a paragon of morality comes with not using illegal commodities and also abiding by law, paladins are the most law conforming lawset in the game by far. Your use of illegal grade weaponry to put people into crit is also wrong, as the logs state you didnt crit them, you proceeded to snuff the life out of them so you actively lied in your appeal. And your rude behavior towards the staff does not give us an incentive to even consider a second chance.

Because of this im of the opinion you should earn your roles back through good behavior instead of whining to us about it
Omnes una manet Nox. Dum spiro, spero. Per angusta ad augusta. Per aspera ad paradisum.
#9
I'm with Shlomo on this. Emagging yourself to get illegal and deadly items as a Borg with a l about enforcing honor, law, and to protect innocents is too far. Im locking this thread. Show an improvement in your behaviour and this ban will be lifted.

I will also be unbanning you from the discord so that you can show this improvement, as i think that would be wise.
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