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Ban appeal
#1
Username: Qfmysteryman23
Ingame Name: Cleans-His-Ass
Discord name:Massage#7953
Approximate Time of Ban: 10/11/2019 8:45ish
Ban Reason/Message:ADDED
Appeal: First off I started the Cargonia thing to spice up the round. We did not attack people unless it was in self defense. Security Members that round were Incinerating people and beating people to death btw. They stormed cargo first and we then fought back and pushed them out of cargo. Me and the other Cargonians might have accidentally killed Eva, But it was an accident because in the Frey of the madness between lasers and gunshot going off and flash bangs going off it was hard to distinguish who was friend or foe. I definitely don't know why I was banned from being a captain or HOP or HOS because those rules have nothing to do with Cargonia or what happened that round. 


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#2
These are all attack logs for the fighting at cargo: https://pastebin.com/7pjNgdWP

This is everything you said throughout the round: https://pastebin.com/bHBETeji

You were quartermaster, which is a pseudo head in that it has responsibility when it comes to multiple crew and what a department does, like with normal heads - just in the realm of the cargo department.

If this happens with QM, what would happen with command roles?
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(10-12-2019, 04:52 AM)Misdoubtful Wrote: These are all attack logs for the fighting at cargo: https://pastebin.com/7pjNgdWP

This is everything you said throughout the round: https://pastebin.com/bHBETeji

You were quartermaster, which is a pseudo head in that it has responsibility when it comes to multiple crew and what a department does, like with normal heads - just in the realm of the cargo department.

If this happens with QM, what would happen with command roles?
If you read the logs and Look to see what happened before I shot at the captain, the captain was attacking one of the golems on our side. And the Security Guard we took hostage threw a flash bang into cargo and thus we attacked back. If it wasn't for me stepping in how ever the cargo technicians would have killed the Security Guard. So in a way I saved him. Secondly when The cargo Technicians Kidnapped the HOP, I told them to treat him well and to heal him. I Acted very Honorable when it came to standards of battle.
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At the end of the day my concern is the mayhem and death here, security attempted to do their jobs and they got murdered for it.

Its not really a question of honor, although I appreciate it in the sense of RP.

There aren't too many cases where breaking away from the station violently works out, and as you can tell -- a lot of people noticed it and got pretty irritated about it, 'specially security trying to do what they should be doing.

In a perfect world the HOP would have caught onto this and demoted you ahead of time.

Otherwise there are much safer ways to do this stuff, like arming cargo with picket signs and protesting, but the nations mentality and 'separate state' always leads to trouble within rounds.
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To further add to this on why this was not okay regarding the current rules:

1.3: Do not act as an antagonist when not one. If you commit crimes that can result in you receiving capital punishment as non-antagonist, you are breaking this rule. Do not cause excessive chaos as a non-antagonist. Do not act violently when being arrested or removed from an area you are not supposed to be in; using force to defend yourself in cases like that is not considered self-defense. If you are confused about whether you are an antagonist or not, you are not an antagonist. If you act as an antagonist even though you weren’t assigned one, your punishment will range from how much damage you cause. A little fun (slipping people), might get you 2 minutes in the brig, if you are a jerk you might be permabrigged. If you are just completely horrible, you’ll be banned.

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